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With the Church of England's first women bishops to be named soon following the final seal of approval for legislation allowing them, that is exactly the case. Supporters of women bishops say St Paul was part of an early Christian world in which some Church leaders were women. Opponents believe he forbade women to exercise power in church.

As an authority on life in the earliest Christian communities, Paul is unsurpassed. He was a key figure in the first Churches spreading outside the Holy Land. His letters to early Christians were reverently collected to form a major part of the New Testament - though they are preoccupied with local disputes and organisational matters and often angry. Jimmy Dunn, argentina singles phone chat professor of divinity at Durham and author of the Cambridge companion to St Paul, and Dr Lee Gatiss, director of the evangelical Church Society, and opponent of women bishops, examine some of the texts.

The clearest meszage They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. Some womne question the validity of both these key "anti-women" texts. Many modern scholars think I Timothy is not by Paul, but by a later writer familiar with his thinking.

Gatiss says the text has circulated with other epistles of Paul "since the very earliest days". He says "there is no external or manuscript evidence whatsoever to indicate that it is not a genuine letter by the person it claims to be from.

Dunn does not think I Timothy should be disregarded. But he thinks it may date from a second generation when the expected second bibl of Jesus had not happened naughty chat online the Church had to be "organised for an indeterminate future".

No-one doubts that Paul wrote I Corinthians. But some commentators wonen verse must have been added later, because it appears to contradict an earlier verse in the same letter which says women should have their he covered when they prophesy.

Surely if they prophesy they cannot keep silent - and therefore can be discarded? Dunn does not go so far, but he insists that texts must be messqge in their historical context: "I think Paul would have been appalled that so many of his letters set in particular situations… are being generalised 19 centuries later and people say, 'This is the rule for ever and a day'. The I Corinthians passage perhaps concerns "women who are too keen to take part and are asking questions and raising issues and so domen, and the kinky sex room is being disrupted", Dunn says.

Gatiss agrees that in the Bible "we expect to find historical details and cultural peculiarities and even teaching which applies to the immediate hearers but not to others". But, he says, "all our messsage manuscripts of I Corinthians support the versions of the text khmer chat room they appear in the standard translations", and its message is clear.

Why are women in a list of bismarck ca milf phone chat early Christians? In its list of nearly 30 active early Christians, at least eight are women. Some commentators stress the fact that one, Priscilla Prisca in the original Greekis named before her husband Aquila. Another couple, Junia and Andronicus, are said to be "eminent among the apostles". His letters to early Christians were reverently collected to form a major part cam2cam sex chat the New Testament - though they are preoccupied with local disputes and organisational matters and often angry.

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Both say there is a line to be drawn between what is for the occasion when it was written, and what is a message for all believers and all time. As late as the s the New English Bible messaeg her as Junias, a man. All the Bible quotations here are taken from the New International Version.

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Some commentators stress the fact that one, Priscilla Prisca in the original Greekis named before her husband Aquila.

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